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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 12, 2019 • 3:49:36pm

They may not wait for the US election and they may not bother with a federal prosecution, no matter how contrived. If they simply gun him down on the street, the Russian-controlled conspiracy industry will automatically blame Hillary and the Democrats. This would have the great advantage of actually helping Trump in the election. Such is the fate of worn and broken tools.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2019 • 4:09:45pm

You’re assuming he had the ability for introspection. I’m not sure that exists.

But it’s cool. He’ll just go to mother Russia with his pal, Snowden.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jul 12, 2019 • 4:23:58pm

re: #2 MsJ

You’re assuming he had the ability for introspection. I’m not sure that exists.

But it’s cool. He’ll just go to mother Russia with his pal, Snowden.

I don’t think Putin will let him in. Snowden could be mined for intel on how the NSA operates. Greenwald might be worth a propaganda victory. But on the whole, Putin & the Russian oligarchs hate Teh Ghey and will instead prefer to see Greenwald die in a “prison accident” while being transported.

Said accident involving his skull being caved in with truncheons and bootheels.

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mmmirele  Jul 12, 2019 • 4:57:36pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think this is very likely. Rio is a dangerous city where five people die a day.

nytimes.com

Rio city councillor Marielle Franco was assassinated in her car on March 14, 2018 by shooter(s) in another car. Her driver also died, but her press secretary survived. Two former police officers were arrested in her death earlier this year. Apparently the bullets that killed Franco came from a police armory. Greenwald’s husband, David Miranda, is a federal congressman, but that doesn’t mean anything, obviously. Miranda was formerly a Rio city councillor.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2019 • 5:12:27pm

Mueller time (with Congress) July 24.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2019 • 5:16:45pm

re: #5 MsJ

Mueller time (with Congress) July 24.

From WaPo…

Former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has offered to postpone his congressional testimony by one week to give lawmakers more time to question him about his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible obstruction of justice by President Trump.

Mueller is scheduled to testify before the House Judiciary and Intelligence committees on Wednesday in a much-anticipated public appearance since he gave a short statement following the conclusion of his nearly two-year investigation. The former FBI director is perhaps the one person lawmakers and the nation have been wanting to hear from most.
His offer to appear instead on July 24 is being considered by the congressional panels, according to multiple officials familiar with the discussions who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive talks. The talks continued throughout the day Friday with no resolution.

The possible delay came as House Democrats on the Judiciary Committee pressed their leaders for more time to question the former special counsel. Under the current agreement, Mueller would appear for two hours each before the Judiciary and Intelligence committees. Because of five-minute questioning rules, only the most senior dozen or so Democrats and Republicans on the Judiciary Committee would get to ask questions, upsetting more junior members.
Those members asked the committee this week to try to get Mueller to commit to more time.

“Whenever the hearing takes place, it’s important that every single member of the House Democratic Caucus who serves on the Judiciary Committee participates in the Mueller hearing,” Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), chairman of the Democratic Caucus and a member of the committee, told reporters.
The Mueller report said investigators found insufficient evidence to show a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia to influence the 2016 election and reached no conclusion about whether Trump obstructed justice — despite laying out episodes of the president apparently seeking to stymie the investigation. Mueller’s team wrote that it was bound by Justice Department policy that forbids the indictment of a sitting president from deciding or alleging — even privately — that Trump had committed a crime.
Mueller spoke to the public briefly in May, saying that he could neither clear nor accuse Trump of obstructing justice, leaving room for Congress to make that call and fueling impeachment demands among some Democrats. The remarks were his first public comments on the case since he concluded his investigation. Mueller said that if his office “had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.” He noted that the Constitution “requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing.”

Many members of the Judiciary Committee are concerned that two hours is insufficient time to discuss even half of the 10 areas of potential obstruction of justice by Trump identified in the Mueller report.

Trump, speaking to reporters outside the White House on Friday, disparaged Congress’s push to get Mueller to testify. There’s nothing Mueller “can say,” Trump said. “He’s written a report. It said no collusion, and it said, effectively, no obstruction. They want to go it again and again and again because they want to hurt the president before the election.”

Mueller’s long-awaited testimony will come as more than 80 House Democrats have called for opening impeachment proceedings against Trump, arguing that he has ignored the Constitution that he took an oath to defend while repeatedly refusing to cooperate with congressional investigations.

The negotiations come as a closed-door session with Mueller and his deputies was suddenly canceled. Under the original plan, after the open hearing with Mueller, House Democrats had proposed to question Mueller and his top lieutenants in private for an hour. On Wednesday, lawmakers were told that the session was off.

Republicans have argued that the closed-door questioning was never agreed upon; Democrats said that they believed it was agreed upon and that Mueller’s team may have backed out under pressure from the Justice Department not to participate.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2019 • 5:18:47pm

CRAP. Wrong thread.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2019 • 9:02:17pm

There is no doubt in my mind the Russians will kill him and then they will spin another Seth Rich conspiracy alleging Hillary had it done. And the liars at Fox News, Infowars, OANN, Hoft, D’Souza and their ilk will mainstream that lie just as they mainstreamed the Seth Rich lie.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 13, 2019 • 11:38:16am

This is a tough one for me, because while I despise Bolsonaro and his fascist tactics, I also despise Glenn Greenwald and wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.

The guy put out a completely false story about me, that I inspired one of the worst mass murderers in history, using lies he got from the far right shit-zombies who stalk me on the internet. So yeah, I do care about press freedom, and this is wrong, but Glenn Greenwald is pure garbage and as far as I’m concerned he can fuck off forever.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jul 14, 2019 • 3:44:34pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

This is a tough one for me, because while I despise Bolsonaro and his fascist tactics, I also despise Glenn Greenwald and wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.

The guy put out a completely false story about me, that I inspired one of the worst mass murderers in history, using lies he got from the far right shit-zombies who stalk me on the internet. So yeah, I do care about press freedom, and this is wrong, but Glenn Greenwald is pure garbage and as far as I’m concerned he can fuck off forever.

Yeah, I get that. But I keep hearing lines from American President/West Wing echoing in my head, about how democracy is hard, and that we have to support the rights of people who we despise. Which, I guess means that we have to resist the attempts to kill or imprison Greenwald for being a journalist, and exposing corruption & dirty dealing.

The part where he spreads hysteria, disinformation and gives political cover to shitlords though? Naw, not so much. He gets to suffer the consequences of that kind of behavior, winding up like Walter Winchell.

A once-powerful opinion leader, beloved of reactionary swine, ultimately discarded by those whose boots he so assiduously tongue-bathed, dying a painful death in poverty and shame.

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steve_davis  Jul 14, 2019 • 5:01:34pm

re: #10 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Yeah, I get that. But I keep hearing lines from American President/West Wing echoing in my head, about how democracy is hard, and that we have to support the rights of people who we despise. Which, I guess means that we have to resist the attempts to kill or imprison Greenwald for being a journalist, and exposing corruption & dirty dealing.

The part where he spreads hysteria, disinformation and gives political cover to shitlords though? Naw, not so much. He gets to suffer the consequences of that kind of behavior, winding up like Walter Winchell.

A once-powerful opinion leader, beloved of reactionary swine, ultimately discarded by those whose boots he so assiduously tongue-bathed, dying a painful death in poverty and shame.

we don’t have to support people who lie about us. they can drop dead. Even Ransom, in Perelandra, eventually comes to the realization that he is simply going to have to kill the demonic Weston with his bare fucking hands. He does this after about a half-dozen pages of introspection and hand-wringing, but still, he gets there in the end.


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