re: #3 marjoriemoon

Glad you decided to post, CL. As long as Charles allows it, you shouldn’t worry about anyone else. At least, that’s my philosophy LOL

I’m glad I did too. I was feeling a little resentful about not posting it, then decided that was ridiculous as there was no one stopping me but me.

I make very clear distinctions between how Islam is practiced in fear based societies and how it’s practiced in freedom based societies.

That’s a good point, put the way you just did. It’s a distinction I tend to overlook because I came to Islam freely, choose freely to wear hijab, etc.

I do not like the Palestinian people. I quite loathe them, actually and I have little feeling for the 22 very wealthy Arab countries who do nothing to help them, even as they live as refugees in their own lands. That would solve the problem, if the Arab nations would reach out to their own brothers and sisters, but they have no desire.

I’m not going to pretend that first part doesn’t bother me in its scope, but as long as you’re not calling for violent collective retribution against them or blaming all Muslims for the sins of a few, then I’m not going to fight with you over it. I also have no knowledge of what personal losses you may have suffered to make you feel that way.

I’m glad that you’re honest enough to put it right out there though. If I know where you stand it makes it easier (but not easy) for us to talk about the subject and maybe learn something useful from each other.

As for the other Arab countries, some of them are quite poor, but I too don’t have much feeling for the ones who are in a position to help, but don’t (for the same reason you stated).

However, when these people flee tyranny for freedom, it is up to us to extend our hands and I believe that very strongly.

I know you do becuase I’ve heard you say as much many times, but I have to ask: How do you turn off the loathing if it’s a Palestinian? I’m just asking becuase loathing is a really strong word.

Who is running the Catholics out of town when a priest fondles a young boy? Who calls for the church closing? No one, actually.

I hadn’t even thought of that.