Marvel Comics Introducing a Muslim Girl Superhero

Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)11/06/2013 12:42:04 pm PST

re: #139 SidewaysQuark

And from the vantage point of the “Marvel Universe”, who created the creator?

From their vantage point, that’s not an answerable question. They can reason their way towards his existence, but nothing else about his nature.

Do you lack the imagination to comprehend that hypothetical characters could have the imagination to wonder such things? After all, that’s the crux of the discussion, here.

Okay, I’ll try to slow down and explain this again. It’s no more or less rational for a denizen of the Marvel universe to think their supernatural beings are artificial robots than to think “Allah sent them”. Both are irrational, because both are unlikely to be true. Therefore, the default position is “I don’t know wtf the Jinn are.” Got it?

Yes. They’re both definitions that would satisfy people who are already predisposed to believe them, but not otherwise. The ‘atheist’ explanation you offered is not better than any religious explanation.

So be clear to me - is an orderly universe evidence for “intelligent design”, or is a disorderly universe evidence for “intelligent design”? You can’t have it both ways.

For me, as an atheist, an orderly universe is evidence for lack of design, because you can’t really have a disorderly universe that’s stable and remains in existence.

No, I don’t think comic book universes are “real”. Yes, I realize humans write Marvel Comics - do I HAVE to explain that? I thought the point was that we were discussing it as if it was hypothetically real.

You consistently are talking as though you’re not acknowledging that the Marvel universe is literally intelligently designed, or as though that is something that you don’t think would be discernible from inside that universe.