re: #15 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I don’t understand what you are saying? I read the part your quoted very clearly and it is distorted and untrue in my opinion.

There were no “monitors” (there were people who were “assisting” on the production of the programs who attended to all aspects of the course, and it is just a fact that the paying customers (participants) were in fact allowed to go to the bathroom anytime they wanted, and they did - the doors were never locked or blocked. Adults signed up and paid to take the est training because they heard it was intense. They did not think they were taking a basket weaving course. I have friends who took est and they all told me they went to the bathroom. AND IT WAS THE EST TRAINING! They were interacted with about their promise to only use the bathroom at scheduled breaks. It was an exercise in being fanatical about one’s promises. And in the 70’s some people were attracted to boot camp aspect of it they had heard about and that is why they took est. And once the course started, customers who did not like boot camp feel usually left at the first bathroom break and never returned. And so they should have, why stay in something that is not working for you. None of my friends left and LOVED the est experience and only bragged about the benefits they created for themselves out of the experience.

Where do you perceive that I am being naive?