re: #151 Jaerik

I would argue the correct perspective would be trying to explain to anyone who fought in the Revolution that we would one day advocate torture because 3000 people died 8 years ago.

I have tremendous sympathy for the victims of 9/11, but I thought that America was something worth dying for. If we give up our principles because we’re afraid of some crazy blowing up our plane, how can we call ourselves brave anymore?

So until post 9/11 you don;t think extraordinary measures were made to get info from British captives during the Revolution? Union or Confederates during the civil war? Dougboys during WW1? Allies during WW2? grunts during Vietnam?

This is nothing new. What is new is two things. #1, the nature of the enemy, and #2 the 24/7 news, cameras everywherem instant info age we live in

Hell, back in the 40’s the “press” didn’t even show pictures of FDR in a wheelchair less our enemies as well as our citizens percieved the POTUS as weak. Today, we hear IN DETAIL about every hiccup, burp, and discolored mole of our elected officials