I agree with LGF disdain for what the administration is doing to strip the country and sell it for parts.

But I guess that I am beginning to draw a distinction between at least some parts of the “conservative” movement.

Frum has a pinned tweet to the effect that “If you substitute the phrase “Rule of law” for the phrase “Deep State”, what the Magats are saying can translate into some semblance of coherent English.

So far, this seems to me a good distinction. The commitment to the Constitution, Democracy, the rule of honestly determined laws, _perhaps_ even some shared ethics.

I see some NeverTrumpers, such as Rubin, Frum, Kristol, and Wilson as among that group. I still find their policy goals damnable and feel that those can result in thousands of early American deaths.

But at least there is some possibly of conversation with them. Plus, we will need them for a better chance at ridding ourselves of the Magats.

People like Baby Whiplash who threaten to ignore gun laws, who seek to intimidate and threaten to kill those who do follow them, and overthrow the government are not showing much interest for the Constitution, our democracy, our laws, our ethics, or us. I do not see how it is possible to hold much of a conversation with them.