re: #162 dangerman

what about the illegals?
arent they people?
dont they deserve justice and equity depending on who they are how they got here and what their individual circumstances are?
does all mean all or only some?

and that’s the point - it’s a three tiered approach

the motto / the message of the party is clean and simple and all encompassing- that’s what the dem leadership should be shouting every single day. we are for freedom and equal treatment for everybody

when the discussion goes to the next level, the explanations are also simple
liberty means..
justice means…
for all means…

*then* you get into specifics…where it’s ok to have disagreements on *how* but not the fundamentals -

sometimes the government is the solution sometimes it isnt
everyone is treated proportionally and equitably
and everyone means *everyone*

otherwise someone really didnt accept “liberty and justice for all” in the first place

The problem here with the bolded is that a disturbingly large segment of the country has answered these question, and the answers are as follows: 1) Fuck em. 2) No. 3) Hell no. 4) They’re not people so they don’t count among ‘all’.

I’m not sure trying to promote ‘Liberty and Justice for All’ will help when half the country already describes liberty as ‘the freedom to shitkick the others for not being real people’ and Justice as ‘being able to see those darkies go to jail for being darkies’