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Cato the Elder10/18/2009 7:52:10 am PDT

re: #150 SlartyBartfast

Leadership is one thing—leadership in the direction of personal freedom and liberty is another. So far,…

Syria - wrong.
Iran - wrong.
Honduras - wrong.
Sudan - wrong.
Poland/Czech - wrong.

Afghanistan? We can hope, but the current trend does not give me reason for optimism.

(Can anyone provide an example for which we can conclude “right” instead of “wrong”??)

Tell me again how we’re “wrong” in Honduras? We should have embraced the coup against an elected leader? Because he’s a leftist leader? Or should we have been more forceful in standing up for that leaders rights? Seems like if anything we’re not wrong, we’re just waffling like crazy. Which I suppose is wrong.

As for Czecho and Poland, do you seriously think those missiles would have worked? And how would we like it if the Russians tried installing missiles in Cuba again or in Venezuela, right in our back yard? If the Czechs and Poles ever though we’d fry ourselves and the rest of the world for them, it’s time they were disabused. And it was never about Iran. The missile scheme goes back to Reagan, for Pete’s sake.

re: #163 albusteve

yeah, I know…just my usual Sunday morning bluster…I just hate to think we are so screwed…

Americans are not warlike; nor does imperial ambition fill their soul. They have done almost nothing for which daily apologies are necessary. Their blood soaks the beaches of Normandy; their graves litter European towns. And their fortune saved millions from the plight of destitution. Americans do not appreciate a man so removed from their history, so out of tune with the American experience, that he reflexively expresses regret for the very conditions that should engender pride

Herbert London

Try telling a Filipino that bit about how America is not an empire.