re: #159 engineer cat
besides, one thing that wingnuts totally and completely miss is the fact that the real left wing sites have for a long time practically (and often actually) classify obama as little better than a republican
for example the drone strikes go down very poorly among the denizens of daily kos and eschaton, as they should
black and white, manichean universes are found mostly in wingnuttia, that’s the real distinction
Obama and the Democrats have put the “bipartisan seal of approval” on most of the civil liberties abuses of the Bush era, to their great discredit.