re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany has since changed its laws so that anyone born in Germany to legal resident parents is automatically German.

They have not always been models of acceptance and tolerance, but I have found that they are moving in the right direction.

Nor will they extend their definition of “tolerance” to any culture that treats women as second-class citizens.

Yes, and it was definitely a good step forward and I agree that Germany is moving in the right direction, but the underlying prejudice is still there. I’d like to think that if it were put up to a vote, birthright citizenship in the US would still pass, but I’m beginning to doubt it.

I agree regarding the tolerance of cultures that treat women as second-class citizens. I wasn’t aware that Turkey treated women as such. When I checked, they even had more liberal abortion laws than some EU countries like Poland and Ireland, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there weren’t other issues.