re: #16 pittee

I don’t understand what you are saying? I read the part your quoted very clearly and it is distorted and untrue in my opinion.

Ah, so he’s ‘no slouch’ but he’s distorting things and lying. I get it.

The fact that one EST program did one thing and one did another is not a proof that he’s lying, you know.

Where do you perceive that I am being naive?

That you think that adults can’t be prevented from doing something.