re: #170 iceweasel

BTW,

Women’s sexuality isn’t something that’s ‘pointed at you’. It’s something we, ourselves, own.

What I’m learning from this thread is that some men experience desire as something women are doing to them.

Which again, is an old old story, but it’s always interesting to see how it hasn’t gone away.

Here is something I just posted on the thread about RSM’s actual vile rape fantasies.

This sick, sick depraved stuff is the other side of what I was writing about yesterday.

There are so many ways that people simply abuse each other and justify abusing each other. It is all disgusting in the worst possible ways.

If yesterday, I was sickened by the ways that certain women manipulate stupid men, today I get treated to the ugly, ugly side of abusive men who wish to prey on women.

I suppose the real mediation here to come up with is that the right wing these days is based on the most selfish, everyone for themselves, “I got mine, F-U sort of mentality.”

In this way, both of those disgusting things become one in the same.

RSM sees women as object for his enjoyment, and how dare they complain about the actions of an ubermensch like him! They asked for it. He never has responsibility. He never needs to see women as people.

The women on Fox use their sexuality to sell propaganda and turn themselves into such objects. Sure it is all part of the way get they get paid. It’s show business. The rubes are stupid… They asked for it. She never has responsibility. She never needs to portray women as people.

Do I make any more sense now?

This is all just a repugnant cycle of abuse, self abuse and dehumanization perpetrated by those who only ever think of themselves, and have no care for others as an enshrined philosophy.

What I’m learning from this thread is that some men experience desire as something women are doing

This is particularly offensive.

Now as to women owning their sexuality, yes of course women own their sexuality as much as men. The choice to broadcast it is up to them as much as it is up to men.

So please get this straight before turning this into a philosophical rant about things it just isn’t.

No it is not that men or women project their sexuality and others just can’t help themselves. It is that men and women project their sexuality and it is not desired to be projected.

In order for you to be even remotely correct on this point, all that make up, the ridiculously short skirts and the heaving breasts, would have to not be sexual cues that were literally being broadcast.

Of course they are. When that gets mixed with a message of selling pure evil, I don’t like it. I find it repulsive. Your thinking on this is at least as colored by your lit-crit notions of feminism as my thinking on this is colored by notions of tsniut. I am not interested in debating all the details, but you are completely off in your understanding of where I am coming from.

I’m not going into how right or wrong the language I used is. Take it as a reflection of my revulsion of how disgusting this whole thing is. However, don’t try to prop up a false feminine victim philosophy, when the reality here being discussed involves people who know exactly what they are doing.