Hm.
I’m going to apologize for being snarky. It started out as annoyance with the specific quotes I pulled and sort of translated over into the rest of the conversation.
Reading back I’d say we’re on the same side of the concept of shame/guilt and there’s a misreading on my part. My specific argument with that shame/guilt as a dichotomy is no longer much in standing, not that shame is no longer a subject of study.
I’m not sure I agree with you about Said or the articles posted, by I am sorry that I got heated about this. It’s very easy in this medium to get snappy, and then to start perceiving aggression in return posts. And in this case, I’m sure I’m doing a bit of that.