re: #17 lawhawk
Another movie that took the violence seriously was another Verhoeven film - Starship Troopers. Yeah, it wasn’t faithful to the book, but it plays as a satire of the military industrial complex, fascism, and soldiers as canon fodder.
Yeah, the book and the Heinlein novel are two very different things, but I can certainly appreciate the film as a great satire of militarism and fascism.