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10,000 Muslim Men Against Domestic Violence

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kreyagg11/15/2010 5:26:02 am PST

re: #18 Obdicut

Again: You’re treating all of Islam as a monolithic belief. “The religion” doesn’t have any existence. CuriousLurker and Osama Bin Laden do not follow the same religion, any more than Fred Phelps and Stephen Colbert follow the same religion.

Indeed they do follow the same religions, it’s just that Curious Lurker and Stephen Colbert trade more of their religions away for civilization than do the other two.

The texts were written during a period of time where counseling people to first talk with their wives, then deprive them of sex, before beating them, was actually a very liberal and forward thinking policy. This is why moderate Muslims, as CuriousLurker demonstrated, do not interpret that text to mean that God thinks it’s great to beat your wife, but as an attempt to change people’s behavior so that they’d beat their wives less often.

You are demonstrating a species of cultural relativism, just because it was better at the time doesn’t mean that it was ever very good. That the teachings of Mohamed were a step forward in 8th Century Arabia doesn’t mean much today. The problem with the texts is that they can’t evolve from their original, primitive position. For progress to happen you need to have the followers be willing to ignore more and more of what those texts teach.