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The Bob Cesca Podcast: A Puddle of Self Loathing

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Dangerman9/11/2019 8:24:15 am PDT

re: #191 lawhawk

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The world witnessed the power of American defiance.

I had to read that a couple times to figure out what the fuck Trump meant by that. I still don’t know. I don’t think he knows either. American resilience to be sure, but defiance? We were laid low on 9/11.

Because on 9/11, we got hit by a small group of terrorists who exploited all kinds of failures in security, intel, and killed nearly 3,000 directly and had opportunity to kill thousands more had the towers fallen across lower Manhattan instead of essentially within the WTC site.

After 9/11, we learned that the US would strike out at Iraq and minimized the effort to go after al Qaeda, which carried out the attack, or the Taliban, who harbored the al Qaeda leaders. Trump now invited and disinvited Taliban from Camp David just this past week.

What defiance did the world witness? That Americans would lash out at completely unrelated bad actors? That we’d waste resources and capital on endless war with uncertain results? That we’d engage in nonstop security theater ever since?

and whatever gains were subsequently made to address those failures, trump and to a large extent bolton have torn them apart