re: #19 Obdicut

I don’t. Just the parts where you lie.

As I thought, you can’t actually name any innovation or efficiency that private insurance has yielded.

Oh bullshit. You’re pretending as though every hospital is available to every patient on every health insurance plan. You know very well that depending on your plan, depending on your location, and depending on the circumstances under which you fall sick, you may have little or no choice in terms of which hospital you go to.

Show me where I talked about government medical care, please. Liar.

Wow. I’m “pretending”, eh? First, I said no such thing. Second, you know I didn’t. You have my actual words right there for reference. Were the shoe on the other foot, you’d call me liar. Again. But this time, with some justification.

As to where you talked about government medical care, you did talk about government insurance.

Explain an innovation that the Health Insurance industry has brought to us. Explain something a private health insurance company came up with that was of value to something other than itself. That was of value to its consumers. Something that isn’t provided by a public form of health insurance.

Which, of course, will only be valid at government medical care facilities, because the rates they offer won’t suffice to cover expenses at private health care facilities.

We’re headed that way fast. The current scheduled cuts in medicare will put reimbursements far below cost.

And, if you reflect, you’ll see that I did address the point. Private auto insurance provides a benefit, not just to itself, but to society, because it works diligently to reduce its loss rate, with incentives for customers to be safe and with customer education. You probably understand this already. What is so hard about the idea that the same forces and motives are at work when it comes to health care?

I’ve been debating this topic with you in good faith. You disagree with me, I understand that. But if you really think I’m lying, you must think that I already agree with you on the merits, because anybody just naturally would. That’s simply not so. Your own positions are not self-evident truths.