re: #9 Alephnaught

Uh-oh, I must have killed the last thread with my last comment!

Anyway, from downstairs, about the discussion regarding “incels”:

I’m not surprised they believe that “normies” “get all the women”. After all, if you’re outside the norm, that can be quite intimidating to a potential partner. Especially if “outside the norm” means “creepy entitled asshole” like the people in that Salon article mentioned above.

Of course, they go about it the wrong way. As a gay man who came of age In Glasgow Scotland in the late 80s/early 90s, I was definitely outside the norm, but I didn’t let that stop me trying my damnedest. So, at this point in my life, I have a minimum level of sympathy for these “incel” folks. I mean, come on, like nobody else has ever felt lonely or undersexed at some point in their lives? Also, “involuntary celibacy”? Surely the whole point of celibacy is that it’s a conscious choice and therefore voluntary.

(Also, I’m also aware that “normies” is a favoured term of the “alt-right”, so the prospect of getting into bed with an actual flipping Nazi might also be considered a turn-off for a potential partner. In addition to that, i suspect a great deal of these “incels” are less interested in a relationship and more interested in getting their rocks off. Relationships are hard work.)

Many “incels” may be men who don’t know how to court appropriately. They do not realize how their behavior may be a turnoff for someone who might otherwise be willing but is offended by their comments or creeped out by other traits (e.g. lurking) . Guys on the spectrum may have more serious problems in this regard — and Alek Minassian appears to be one of those.