re: #196 astronmr20

A text that says anyone who leaves the religion should be executed- is fundamentally violent. Same for a text that demands it’s followers fight the non-members wherever they are found.

I do believe that MUSLIMS are not fundamentally voilent, but the source text of Islam is- by pure definition and by it’s own proclamations.

BTW, I don’t go around proclaiming these things. But when a topic of conversation demands pure definition in regards to source text, it’s worth putting into perspective.

According to Muhammed, and according to Allah, Islam is NOT a religion of peace. Yes- it can be whatever a follower makes of it- but by it’s own founder, it is steeped in blood.

No. No.

This is flawed. This a fundamentally flawed interpretation of Islam.

Let me put it to you this way: Consider the Old Testament. THAT is a bloody, violent, vengeful text— and it bears almost no relation to Judaism as anyone I know practices Judaism. Even the Torah—maybe especially the Torah!— is also filled with similar stories.

And anyone who wanted to just point to either text and claim it literally stands for the teaching of Judaism would be flagrantly wrong.

Similarly for these claims about the Koran and Islam.