re: #173 MsJ
I had a second case of chickenpox in 1993 (off work from the Navy for three weeks) and a second case of mumps in 2012 (thanks to an antivax parent’s Christmas carolling child) which nearly killed me with a 105°F fever and bits swollen up like oranges.
My mother suffers from post-polio syndrome, and my wife’s mother died from it after spending her life in a wheelchair. One of my great-grandmothers had shingles lifelong until she died in 1993.
I would dearly love to shove a cactus sideways up their anti-science BS ports.
Take a walk through an old enough cemetery and you see what life was like for children before vaccines.