re: #199 Obdicut

Whatever. It’s so banally true as to be meaningless. No human could comprehend everything in the universe. It’s a truism. That doesn’t imply that there are any individual truths incomprehensible to a human.

I’ve never understood the attraction of belief in a god who created a universe that was somehow fundamentally incomprehensible. It paints god in such a crappy light.

A truism is a truism precisely because it’s true. How it’s stated is what determines whether a particular iteration is banal or profound.

Most atheist physicists now believe that there are things about our universe that are fundamentally beyond our human grasp. The leap from there to positing a being who could grasp those things we can’t is not a very big one. Whether you called such a being “God” or “Really Smart Big Dog Apollo”, and whether Apollo were actually the creator or merely to us what we are to dogs, is immaterial.

That we can study dogs means there may be creatures who can study us, and see things which we miss because we’re too busy being us to notice them.

I think you miss some of the wonder inherent in the discussion, and that you do Liet Kynes a disservice. It does not seem to me that the two of you are natural antagonists.