I grew up arguing theology with sharp folks of many faiths.

One of the biggest problems with any large faith is the definition of the church.

I respected the folks I talked with that saw their church as the members. The people.

There was a second camp who defined the church as the institution. These are the people that hide crimes to “protect ” the church, meaning the institution.

I have serious issues with those who wish to protect the institution instead of the church members.

But I understand the difference between the groups and don’t conflate them.