re: #181 unproven innocence

Counterpoints: Rachel Maddow (various) and:

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Sorry, but I can’t agree with you about Scarborough. There have been multiple occasions both during the run-up to the 2016 election as well as afterward where Joe claimed to disavow himself completely from Trump, then only a short time later was firmly acting as a cheerleader for the same things he claimed were intolerable just days earlier.

We’ve known that Donald Trump has surrounded himself with outright fascists, including those who have close ties with the white nationalist movement for months now. This fact alone is a dealbreaker - even if everything else was squeaky-clean (which with Trump is absolutely is NOT the case) it warrants complete and total disavowment from the Trump “brand”. PERIOD.