re: #222 c6gunner

Horrible example to start with. It has nothing to do with what was being discussed. Whether hospitals were started in the US by churches is irrelevant - hospitals existed prior to that point, and would have existed regardless of Church involvement. Far from listing thousands of good things which would not exist without religion, I sincerely doubt that you could list even one. I welcome you to try - just please, put a little more thought into it than you did with your first “example”.

Actually if you study history you will find that almost all hospitals started with religious organizations, you find it horrible because it totally destroys the “religion is teh bad” discussion that you wish to have.