re: #232 Achilles Tang

So you feel the US WAS guilty of genocide, in retrospect?

Nope. Jesus fucking christ, I don’t get what the fuck isn’t getting through.

He said to flatten Gaza, and to nuke it repeatedly. Gaza is only 141 square miles. Gaza city itself is tiny but densely packed. A single nuke would kill a hundred thousand. Several nukes, more. Flattening it, demolishing all buildings, removing all transportation and electricity and water, that’d kill even more.

Germany, we did not flatten. Japan, we did not flatten. We poured ordinance on them, but we didn’t have the ability, even if we’d had the desire, to flatten them. The comparison is stupid as shit and I am really fucking sick of people making it.

We did commit war crimes. We did things that were war crimes at the time, like unrestricted ground targets for fighter/bomber sorties— Chuck Yaeger attests to participating in this war crime and acknowledges it as a war crime. Some of the bombing campaigns were war crimes, definitely. But the reason they actually ‘worked’ to break German morale was because the Germans thought the Luftwaffe could protect them, they thought their armies were superior. The Gazans have no such ideas. They know they don’t have the military capabilities of Israel. They already know that Israel bombs them at will.

What is being proposed is a set of actions that would kill a significant percentage of the Gazan people. Might kill about half, all told. Many more would die in the ensuing humanitarian disaster. Starvation and disease would sweep through, even if Israel wanted to provide supplies to everyone they wouldn’t be able to. More and more would die, probably many would, in vengeance, attack Israel and die. Widows and orphans and old men and those too sick of the fighting would be left. Sure. They might sue for peace, though I”d keep an eye on the teenage boys that survived, they’d probably start up a terrorist campaign. They might even acquire rockets from Iran or something and start firing them at Israel in a couple of years.

That is what is being proposed. A massacre in a densely packed urban area for the purposes of prompting surrender with no actual reason why it would, since it’d amount to an attempt to destroy a significant portion of the Gazan people. And if they did surrender, what then? Re-occupy? Leave them to rebuild from the rubble, many more dying year after year from the conditions? Have them attempt to flee into Egypt or Lebanon and probably get shot? Or will Israel set up refugee camps and spend enormous resources sheltering these people— better have tight security.

For fuck’s sake, drop this dumbass bullshit.