re: #23 Obdicut

How it came to exist is entirely irrelevant, just as it is for France, Britain, or any other blood-stained European country.

Well some people think it is relevant. I, for example, think that it matters when discussing the legitimacy.

Israel did NOT come to exist by war, or by conquest, or by displacing an indigenous people.

Anyone who thinks so is simply ignorant of history. I think the truth is relevant.