re: #21 engineer cat

remember that at the time of the founding fathers it was not even taken for granted that a nation could successfully throw off the governance of a monarch and run a nation by a committee of adult white men for any significant length of time

today we have no slaves per se, yet we every one of us know that we benefit from the labor of those in 3rd world countries that make our clothing and electronics in conditions that haven’t been legal in this country since the 19th century

and who will free them?

That’s what I was thinking too. People are products of their era. I seem to recall Lincoln tossed around the idea of deporting slaves back to Africa. Abhorrent by modern standards. Today we buy all our electronic gadgets, cheap plastic Wallmart crap, clothing, computers, etc all made by exploited people far away. We don’t even think about it. In 150 years people will be sitting around thinking about what dicks we were.