re: #24 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You are resisting my point of view and somehow misunderstood. My point is that training and testing at about the level POST calls for is adequate as a start to have the gun at work as a cop or at home as a ordinary guy for defense.

For starting to learn to shoot, beginning with sport/target shooting what California requires now will do.

Self defense with a gun is really not all that difficult except in extremis where you have multiple bad guys or they got all the way to you or a family member before you could act.

The problem we have is criminal use of guns. Misadventure. Theft of guns by bad guys. The exact level of tactical training is not what’s making the difference in gun accidents, suicide or domestic violence.

Try being hard on the bad guys and kind to the good guys for a change.