re: #240 Fozzie Bear

As an atheist, I have none of that kind of faith.

Not quite sure what word could be used to describe someone who thinks/believes/whatever that the universe self-created or always existed vs someone who thinks there was a guiding intelligence/plan/whatever (even if it no longer exists but at one time did).

IMO both of these “beliefs” are equal on the “extraordinary claims” scale and only agnosticism about the whole 9 yards qualifies as being without… whatever that word is.