re: #239 dangerman

From the Redstater you quote:

I don’t care if you lower the bar to China; I don’t see any way in Hell Donald Trump “won” any portion of this debate. Even on those occasions when he was actually right on the issues, such as the court, the second amendment and abortion, he was so inarticulate, incoherent and woefully uniformed that he lost the argument. That irks me even more; by his mere association with these conservative principles he degrades and discredits them.

How could he be right if he was woefully uninformed, inarticulate, and incoherent that his argument made no sense. Oh, I guess if you’re anti-abortion, and your position is abortion is wrong, how you get there or justify it doesn’t actually matter. Gotcha.

But the reality is that the abortion issue and the 2A question reveal that Trump has zero understanding of the Supreme Court, how the law works, and how policy is done in the US. Saying that stuff gets left to the states if Roe is overturned ignores how that actually plays out - and that there’s a whole lot of court decisions that would end up with the matter right back at the Court (because under the law you can’t have split of authority among the circuits).

It also ignores that Trump’s line about how you can get an abortion up to a few days before the baby could be born. This ignores how biology actually works, and if the mother is in that situation, it’s called childbirth.

Late term abortion is a nonissue, mostly because so few are actually done - and when they are done, it’s to protect the life of the mother (a life in being). The GOP would rather see the mother die, to not put too fine a point on things. Forced birth at the expense of the mother.

And it’s not like Trump is an outlier on abortion in respect to the GOP. This is core doctrine. He’s just more explicit about things.