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White House Floats Gun Control Proposals

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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All1/06/2013 9:32:44 pm PST

re: #245 Obdicut

How on earth would requiring people to actually report gun sales to each other be onerous red tape? It’s not like private citizens are going to move massive amounts of guns— or if they are, that’s a freaking problem.

And it comes nowhere close to outlawing the sale of guns. Did you mean the private sale of guns?

What I mean is regulatory hassle. You don’t have to outlaw something to make it virtually impossible to get. You just have to make it difficult enough and frustrating enough that people give up trying to get it.

If you want an example of that, try applying for social security disability. I don’t think it’s a straw man to say it would be a valid concern. But we might have to agree to disagree on this one :)

And yes, if your gun is stolen and you don’t report it, that sure as shit should be a crime.

Should it be a crime if you don’t report medications stolen? (how about your cold medicines? I’ve never liked the idea of criminalizing the failure to report a crime. And I don’t like the idea of carving out an exception criminalizing a private citizen’s failure to report a stolen gun to the police.

What is a militia? Give me some requirements. Are the whackjob militia’s down patrolling the border militias?

re: #249 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’d absolutely sign up for some training and “well regulated militia” membership (Army Reserve Reserve? LOL) if that’s what it meant to keep my AR. Hell, it makes sense and I’d feel good to do it. Maybe there could be real disaster preparedness training involved. Want to keep the rifle? Get a full background check, promise to keep it secure and in working order, maintain a minimum standard of capability, and so on, like the Swiss apparently do.

Provide the service and I’ll sign up. Hell, I’d pay to do that if I had the money…

The idea is pretty close to the above. conceptually it’s the idea of being inclusive with groups that want to organize and possess high powered weapons. If you make them feel like they’re performing a civic duty, even if they’re paying a fee to be a part of it, then I think it’s much less likely you’ll see fringe whack job nut groups joining and forming. In addition, it can serve to create a wholesome atmosphere for people who otherwise might be limited to joining those whackjob groups.

I don’t expect everyone would want to join. after all people are whacky enough to feel that it is a government plot to take their guns or something. but at least then if the groups formed on my idea work as designed, then the federal government won’t be as worried about people in those groups going off the deep end. (hopefully those groups of people would police their own) and instead they could focus their criminal investigations in the real whackjob groups.

I’m not saying the idea is perfect, but I can hope it’d be a starting point for ideas that are outside of the box WRT gun control.