re: #25 Obdicut

My point is the same as it ever was - guns have no useful purpose in everyday civilian use. The few rare instances like diamond couriers are obviously not ordinary civilians going about everyday business.

Furthermore, in this particular anecdotal example, the crime is over and the criminal is retreating. Even though he has a weapon, escalating the situation by starting the shooting is absolutely not ‘common sense gun use’. As you note, even though the outcome in this case is not tragic still does not make it common sense gun use. And it clearly proves my point - the civilian with the gun was unable to defend himself or prevent the crime, and was only able to make a poor decision and escalate the situation into something more dangerous.