re: #259 Nyet

Sure, but neither was Deutschland seen as Hitler’s property, it was always for das deutsche Volk. As such, this sort of control could be seen as the social ownership dictated by socialism. And before you object to it being a fiction, don’t forget that it wouldn’t be different from the Soviet Union, where slogans and reality didn’t necessarily match. We still usually characterize the Soviet system as socialist (even if some Trotskyists label it state capitalist) despite “the workers and peasants” not being the actual owners of the “workers’ and peasants’ state”.

The point is, the issue is not straightforward. The relationship between the state and the private business should be examined to make any sort of a conclusion. That a careful analysis will most probably show that the Nazi Germany wasn’t socialist (see the above article) doesn’t mean it that it’s a foregone conclusion. The leftist trappings and rhetoric are only secondary characteristics.

I know. What I meant was that anything deeper than a very superficial study of those events and their backstory will overall give the impression of a right-wing fascist movement, and that the left-wing hints you have feel “off” in various ways.

And I do know that fascism (in the general sense) can rise from right, left or center (which is why I don’t let my guard down ever for the warning signs), but always end up veering clearly right.