re: #24 Obdicut

I’m not arguing in favor of those laws. I’m arguing that Muslim modesty isn’t different than any other kind of modesty, and that modesty is something that’s generally all over the fucking place.

If a woman wants to wear something because she wants to avoid the male gaze, I have a lot of fucking difficulty telling her she’s being oppressed and she should be open to having her body stared at by whoever wants to.

Hey, I’m not arguing for banning any mode of dress. People can wear what they want. Just don’t expect any consistent and progressive-thinking person to condone culturally- or religiously-imposed levels of modesty that take feminine expression backward in time instead of forward.