re: #302 dangerman

in simple terms, if whitefish is telling them what to do when to do it and how to do it they are employees.

they’d have to be supplying their own tools, equipment, trucks, supplies, billing whitefish for time and materials for their services, have other clients, advertise, have a phone number, business cards, solicit business from others in the market, …..

what most people dont get is re: irs and taxes, “subcontractor”, “independent” “1099 payee” status etc is not based on an agreement between two parties. its based on facts and circumstances, not any sort of contract or understanding

one really neat thing is if they are paid as independents and so they pay their own self employment tax, if the company is audited later on, the irs can collect the same payroll taxes all over again (with hefty penalties and interest). the individual doesnt get his portion back.

Bolded part is exactly what MrBWS said when I told him about the Whitefish thing. Only he said “bullshit” not “red flags”.