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Breitbrat Ben Shapiro: The Left Won Because They're Big Meanies

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Renaissance_Man1/09/2013 2:15:39 am PST

re: #263 Dark_Falcon

If they are in fact children, then yes. But the ‘child’ who is a 16-year old gang member killed in a turf war should really be labeled as gang member killed during the course of criminal activity. And yes, the stats are skewed by counting decisions such as that.

They’re still dead.

I realise that you don’t in fact give a shit about how many people, children or not, are killed by guns. I realise that in your mind they are all acceptable losses in order to satisfy the fantasy of America somehow looking tough and heavily armed, and the even cooler fantasy of gun battles in the street between the bad guys and other gun battles between bad guys and good guys with white hats. Incidentally, this makes you a gun nut whether you own a gun or not. And given that you are a gun nut, the purpose of this post is not to debate with you, because debating with wingnuts and cultists is pointless.

The purpose of this post is to reiterate the baldly obvious - that judging that some deaths are ‘acceptable’ because the dead people are ‘bad’ (a percentage which, even if it were true, is very much smaller than you fantasise it is) is not only morally tenuous and unprincipled, but also beside the point. This is a civilised nation, not one that separates its citizens into lesser folks who need killin’ and fine folks from good stock. And the vast majority of these deaths are preventable. They are unnecessary deaths because civilian guns are unnecessary. Having lots of guns around does not change the rate of other crimes significantly - good folks are not suddenly helpless in the face of the monstrous raving criminals you imagine lurk everywhere. Having lots of guns around simply makes more people get shot. And killed. The end. Having them around means that people get shot even when they’re not where they’re supposed to be, like the two kids above, who in a society that didn’t practice human sacrifice would probably be in custody or serving juvenile probation somewhere, but instead are dead because someone executed them. Someone who fantasised about using his guns to ‘defend’ himself, even against two unarmed and wounded teenagers.