re: #310 Obdicut

Some of them less, some of them more. That’s my point. Some ideologies are more dangerous than others.

Yes. Thank you. Ideology does matter. Thank you for retracting your claim.

And?

“They” were not anything, since they’re not a unified or hierarchical body. As ultra-pacifists, they are completely unreasonable on the subject of Israel.

That is not, however, what we were discussing. Their ideology has not produced terrorists.

And if I’d made that claim, that’d be great.

Anyway, I’m happy you’ve conceded that ideology does, in fact, matter.

The ideology of the Quakers has not produced terrorists. True.

They only produce supporters of terrorists who espouse racism, bigotry and calls to genocide.

The never pull the trigger. They just do the paperwork. By the way, Islam has no formal structure, either.

Now, as to the rest of your remarks, I believe you misinterpreted what I said.

There are differences in ideologies of course, but any ideology can serve as a vehicle- even Solidarity. That there were no overt acts directly attributed to Solidarity is irrelevant. Given the right circumstances, some nut job could have committed acts of violence in Solidarity’s name.

In the end, any ideology can trigger violence.

Also, I never said you made the claim that pacifism is a guarantee of morality.