My personal point of view is that the amorphous terms “about the same” (within 2%? 5%? 20%?) and “western Europe” (if this term includes Scandinavia…which I insist it does…you have virtually no chance) mean there is little hope of you backing up what you said in a mutually satisfactory way.

I was a big enough man to admit that I misspoke. You did not, in fact, pull facts out of your ass regarding DDT. I and others found your support for your position to be dubious, but that is not the same as inventing facts.

Can you, in turn, be a big enough man to admit that, regardless of what you may or may not have read in the past, you cannot support your assertion that “the total recidivism rate for western Europe is about the same as ours”?