re: #348 idioma

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But you basically think that the cops are forcing kids to learn about AIDS and condoms… Why do conservatives want to make an enemy of law enforcement and education? Have you been to any countries where the government is uninvolved in these facets? I have, and those countries are scary as hell. Imagine a nice park in the middle of a city, with raw sewage flowing like a river, kids shitting in the streets, and armless beggars spitting at you. It’s something like that, which I would avoid in a country that put us in space, information at the speed of light, and clean drinking water for all. But you think FDR was wrong, so whatever.

Wow - such a willful misunderstanding of what I thought was a pretty lucid post!

“Police power” of the state simply means legal compulsion - as in, you have to go to school. It wasn’t always this way; indeed “public” education seems to have been a reaction to the Catholic “invasion” in the 19th century on the part of the Protestant establishment, so that the Catholic kids could be kept assimilated into the Protestant mainstream. (And before you scream about kids needing school, consider the outcome of public education in the major cities!!)

So, to point out that kids are compelled to go to school, where they find that “experts” have established a curriculum, with no outside input, which includes controversial sexual topics at controversial age levels, is not “cops forcing kids to learn about AIDS and condoms” - how stupid!

For your information, conservatives treasure education, and are in the forefront of the struggle to restore decent instruction in the public schools, in whatever ways possible (breaking the union monopolies through vouchers, making language and math instruction more rigorous, etc.) as well as restoring the “liberal” in “liberal education” i.e. allowing all kinds of ideas and critical thinking, not just the usual left-wing pap that so dominates in many universities today. Of course, I’m really a “classical” liberal, which winds up making me a “conservative” today, but please don’t confuse me with some of the morons calling themselves conservative.

Conservatives of my ilk also treasure the Rule of Law, as the very basis of society (as opposed to the kind of tricks pulled by Obama on the pension funds, and widows and orphans, holding Senior General Motors paper). If you check it out, the places where there is running sewage in the streets are generally devoid of the Rule of Law, and instead have rule of men.

The problem in such places is precisely that the government IS involved in such things.

As far as I’m concerned, it is the true liberal position to favor freedom in education and Rule of Law, as opposed to what folks like you favor. So forgive me if I take it badly that you throw around such insults.

And if you care about history, check out how many of FDR’s men thought that Italy, Germany and Russia had so much for us to learn from! (You know, the totalitarian states…) There is much to be debated about FDR, but you obviously went to school where he is a saint, not a politician.

Sheesh…