re: #367 kirkspencer
Well, I think drinking in public is pretty much immediate-effect on bystanders via the overall increase in anti-social behavior*. Though I do also think that zoning in the US is overly restrictive in this area (and leads to a lot of unnecessary drink-driving that could be avoided if it were easier to open truly local bars in suburbs).
In the case of smokers I think it’s a reasonable compromise to have certain outdoor areas where people can smoke, since this minimizes the impact on non-smokers while not imposing a very strict ban on smokers.
* Not by all drinkers of course, but on average.