re: #35 goddamnedfrank

The idea that Jews have horns is also, technically, arguable.

By idiots.

Islam never experienced a 300 year “Western Reformation” that validates the idea of government apart from the religious institutions. That means that your and my assumptions on governance and liberty are not at all the same as those in many Islamic nations. That does not make them bad people at all. It just means that they have a very different standard of what role religion plays in the civic sphere. Hirsi may be correct that Islam is not conformable to Western notions of governance and freedom of thought (I have seen published opinions from Islamic scholars stating that democracy and Islam are compatible only in the context of an explicitly Islamic constitution and body politic)...but we do not know that for sure.