CL I would point out the liberation of Kuwait went just fine. And notably that force had a lot of pan Arab forces involved. So yeah that’s critical. And when we fight for the right reasons I think we have a fair shot at a positive outcome. IMHO.

I’d love the Arab countries to take care of this. Best scenario without our help at all. Next best with our help.

Now what these guys would do to a captured soldier is truly awful. Letting that stop us from sending troops would be a mistake. A professional military is not so easily scared off. Not having the USAF Search And Rescue Special Forces forward deployed & available to get the Jordanian pilot before Daesh could capture him was a terrible error on our part. He was doing a mission we asked him to do via his government. Shame on us for not even being able to try. Anyone… am I wrong here?

I agree it’s not enough to be stronger. Strength without wisdom is no strength at all. Let’s consider the consequences of relatively weaker forces arrayed against Daesh. A weaker force will take longer, cost more lives and risk outright failure. If Baghdad fell to Daesh even briefly well that’s truly a nightmare scenario.

Big edit-I guess if we do go I just will not be one to object. But please note I’ll not be celebrating either. I’ll be as worried as the critics. Not until Daesh is a mere footnote will I want to celebrate events there. I hope by then the shape of events will be such we can all celebrate. Sooner not later. Those people deserve a sane and stable governance.