re: #25 jlakely

I realize that’s a fool’s errand in a group that believes in man-caused global warming as strongly as Michele Bachmann believes in the saving grace of Jesus.

It’s a fools errand in a community where people understand basic science.

CO2 traps heat in our atmosphere.

Adding CO2 to the atmosphere can be expected to trap more heat.

We’ve added a ton of CO2 to the atmosphere.

As expected, it’s trapping more heat, which can be shown by the increase in global temperature, which is reproduced in every measure and method of study, by every independent group, by every international group and nation that tracks it.

What you are is a conspiracy theorist, a shill of a conspiracy theorist but still one. Your argument is that 97% of all climate scientists are either wrong or lying and that every nation on earth is together in a conspiracy to suppress the truth. The largest and most pervasive conspiracy of all time.

re: #34 jlakely

Say whatever you want about Heartland, just make sure it’s fact-based. Charles pointed out our funding break-down from Sourcewatch. You don’t see me flaming him, do you? (Though the “who funds you” game is tiresome. Break down Exxon’s support of Heartland and it’s peanuts for a think tank with a $6 million budget — and nothing compared to what the warming side gets.)

Here is your obvious hypocrisy writ large. You are supposedly offended that Ludwig would make an accusation with insufficient proof that someone was paid by Heartland. Yet, you feel free in asserting, with no proof whatsoever, that the amount that ‘the warming side’ gets is larger. No proof, no hint of proof, not even an honest or coherent definition of what the ‘warming’ side is— does that include every scientist who’s published a paper showing the scientific truth that there’s warming? That’s not a side.