re: #424 Rightwingconspirator

If snipers had gotten deployed, sure. Full auto of lesser impact still puts an armored man down. Back then LAPD was so under armed they wound up illegally getting better guns from a local store. A store that ATF tried to bust for it. And yes they were changing aim all along as those guys walked away under fire. “Only” two perpetrators? You should have seen that neighborhood after “only two” guys shot it up. Brass and bullets and bullet holes turned up for days.

Thing is sometimes it’s a sudden fight. Not like a hostage deal where the bad guys location is fixed and snipers and entry teams can stage up and then finally act. Next time an armored bad guy has at it with military weapons, the first cops on the scene might be able to deal with it. 9mm was always a bad idea for cops or soldiers. Inadequate to the task. Contributes to excessive fire.

Right, every cop needs a 10” fully automatic rifle because of one shooting in a metropolitan city.

And you know almost every police department uses .40 S&W nowadays, right?

And the ATF tried to “bust” the store for criminal violations of the law:

In 1993, relations between its founders, brothers Bob and Barry Kahn, soured. This led to litigation between the two over control of the company in 1994, eventually leading to a settlement in 1997 that left the business in the hands of Bob Kahn and his wife, Kathleen. It also racked up $1.75 million in legal and accounting fees, the first cited cause of the bankruptcy.

According to the filing, at this time, Barry Kahn engaged in illegal activities that would have endangered B&B’s licenses and which later got him locked up in federal prison. The filing further alleges that he bought substantial inventory against Bob Kahn’s wishes, which then had to be liquidated at a loss for $425,000. Bad investments followed, and all the while the company found itself with increasing legal headaches.

Beyond that, anti-gun legislation by the city has hurt.

“Gun businesses are dropping like flies in the city of Los Angeles,” said Chuck Michel, a spokesman for the California Rifle and Pistol Association and a lawyer who represented B&B in past lawsuits. “They have ridiculous taxes, ridiculous expenses and it’s impossible to find employees to get their permits approved. The simple truth is that they’ve litigated this store to death, which is what they always wanted to do.”

Two of B&B’s past legal difficulties are cited in the filing. A lawsuit filed by various municipalities in 1999, prosecuting various dealers and manufacturers as contributing to a public nuisance, tied up more funds in legal fees. Last March, agents from the California Department of Justice raided both of B&B’s facilities, alleging that the dealer had defrauded gun buyers.

“B&B believes that these acts were a blatant, premeditated and orchestrated attempt to destroy B&B,” the filing reads.

Hallye Jordan, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, disputed this, saying the department had turned up numerous complaints that the firm had charged buyers for personal transfers of firearms, a transaction that should be free.

“We got some complaints from consumers that they were being charged these fees, then we did some sting operations where our agents were overcharged, as well,” Jordan said. “We talked to the owners and advised them that was illegal. They were warned, which is what led to the search warrants being served.”

thefreelibrary.com

Not to mention, the rifles acquired from the store weren’t even used against the perpetrators, according to another source, it was the LAPD’s SWAT who disabled both shooters (one committed suicide, the other bled to death).