re: #444 Aceofwhat?

If it were that odious, i wouldn’t have any more gay friends. Down with the hackles.

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Don’t presume to tell me what or what I do not find odious, and don’t use the ‘Some of my best friends are X’ defense, please

The word “marriage” connotes many things. It is possible to support the codification of the term as a heterosexual union because one does believe that the connotation and tradition of fertility is worth the semantic effort.

Only if, as I said, you ignore that this is not actually the case. Marriage does not connote fertility, and it is not a tradition of fertility. It is a tradition of two people binding together in support of each other in many things— among them, traditionally, in raising children. Furthermore, you have done nothing, at all, in any way, to address why infertile couples who are infertile because of gender should have to get a civil union while infertile couples who are infertile for other reasons should.

”’ I do not think that is a bigoted opinion unless it is a trojan horse to deprive any couple of the actual fundamental rights that a marriage endows

It is not necessarily a bigoted opinion. It is a thoroughly illogical one based on a completely false premise.

Again: What is fun about this for you?