re: #31 Buck
American colonists fought a war for independence known as the American Revolutionary War.
It was a war between the Kingdom of Great Britain and thirteen British colonies.
What war do you think took place between the Jews and the occupying force in Palestine? And who was that occupying force?
Your question is nonsensical as to the point I was making: Of course Israel came to exist by war. It was inevitable, just as it was in the case of the USA. Whether those two wars are comparable beyond that is completely besides the point. But we know that to be your M.O.