re: #409 jaunte
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Waist deep in the big muddy,
And the big fool says to push on.
Trump is a genius at persuading the GOP — he personally saved the Kavanaugh nomination and possibly the Senate for Republicans. He has a form of charisma that sweeps away logic among those who follow him. Unfortunately, neither Schumer nor Pelosi have those skills or any level of charisma. Followers worship the charismatic leader regardless of his arguments, even though a non-charismatic speaker may have more effective (in terms of reason) arguments. People respond to their emotions rather than their logic.
In general, I prefer to read a speech, instead of listening, because it makes it easier to evaluate arguments instead of being carried away by emotions.
A friend sent this link nautil.us. Beware of charisma.