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iossarian4/25/2011 12:10:54 pm PDT

re: #477 marjoriemoon

I didn’t mean to imply that other people wouldn’t consider it home and I’m not sure who you got that or you’re just goading me.

I am not trying to goad you. I am however asking a pointed question because I believe that it is at the root of most of these problems.


However, Israel is the Jewish state, whether people are pleased with that or not. It is our homeland, whether people are pleased with that or not.

But of course, there was a point far back in time when the part of the world now called “Israel” was not a Jewish state. Over time, people lay claim to pieces of land, and use various methods to legitimize those claims.

I think that using religion, ethnicity, and other such more-or-less exclusionary identity definitions to decide ownership of pieces of land and/or membership of a state is not conducive to long-term stability.


And who says we’re not sharing the land? Is that what you’re saying or trying to get me to say? Who agreed to the partition in 1947 and who didn’t? Who made war with the Jews? Not the other way around. So why don’t you ask the Arabs in the region the same question and see what their answer is.

I completely agree that Israel is vastly more sinned against than sinner in current and recent conflicts. However that doesn’t change the fact that there are real problems that arise from the blurring of religious identity and citizenship, in Israel and of course in other parts of the world as well.