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stabby2/07/2013 11:52:58 am PST

re: #478 Obdicut

Yep. It’s also a question of history, too, since both these religions have been around for a long time.

I didn’t claim they were equal. Historically, Christianity has been worse, but not by a ton. Arguably, a lot of what was wrong with Christian countries was actually a holdover from Roman society, and not directly attributable to Christianity. In the present day, there’s not a lot to choose between them— Islam currently has a lot more violent and dangerous radicals, but Christians, specifically Christians in the US, are following policies that are literally dooming human civilization, and directly using religion to defend their actions. I don’t have any illusions that if the religions of the countries of the West and the Middle East were reversed that the Christian Middle East wouldn’t use Christianity to justify terrorism.

That’s a lot to digest.

I certainly don’t see this: “I don’t have any illusions that if the religions of the countries of the West and the Middle East were reversed that the Christian Middle East wouldn’t use Christianity to justify terrorism.” If the “religions were reversed”? In what way is the situation NOT determined by the religions?

As for the history of one being worse than the other, you DO realize that Islam started out with the genocide in Medina, and with Mohammad killing his critics and killing and enslaving their families. That’s not the history of the religion, that’s the example of the prophet at the root of the religion. You’ll note the lack of Jews around Medina, despite the fact that it was a Jewish city. Who do you think killed the Jews over that whole area, way back then?

We just had a genocide in Bangladesh in the 70s, one that no one is apologizing for. We had another in Turkey/Armenia, one where yet again, if you criticize that genocide in Turkey, you’ll be arrested. I suspect that centuries back there was a massive genocide around India that people don’t want to talk about because the result of talking would be more violence, not contrition.

Are you SURE that the history of Christianity is worse?