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10,000 Muslim Men Against Domestic Violence

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CuriousLurker11/15/2010 3:01:44 am PST

re: #4 kreyagg

From [Link: www.submission.org…]

Beating ones wife is clearly on the list of allowable remedies.

Not only have you conveniently cherry picked a single verse from the Qur’an and left out all notions of the existence of a wider context, but you’ve also purposely omitted the heading of that section entitled Do Not Beat Your Wife, as well as the notes that follow:

*4:34 God prohibits wife-beating by using the best psychological approach. For example, if I don’t want you to shop at Market X, I will ask you to shop at Market Y, then at Market Z, then, as a last resort, at Market X. This will effectively stop you from shopping at Market X, without insulting you. Similarly, God provides alternatives to wife-beating; reasoning with her first, then employing certain negative incentives. Remember that the theme of this sura is defending the women’s rights and countering the prevalent oppression of women. Any interpretation of the verses of this sura must be in favor of the women. This sura’s theme is “protection of women.”

**4:34 This expression simply means that God is appointing the husband as “captain of the ship.” Marriage is like a ship, and the captain runs it after due consultation with his officers. A believing wife readily accepts God’s appointment, without mutiny.

I’m certain that you haven’t the faintest idea which type of “rebellion” the verse you’ve cited refers to, which word in the Arabic original is translated into the English “beating”, nor do you have any knowledge of the detailed Qur’anic exegesis that explains exactly what is meant by that word. You’ve already made it clear numerous times—for example here and here with Alouette recently, and here with me earlier this month—that you think all religious beliefs are absurd, so why do you persist? Your redundancy is tiresome and pointless (I mean outside your own head—it’s obviously important to you).

In polite company, your ignorant contemptuousness and boorish manner make you look twice as foolish as any “delusional myth believer” (to use your parlance). Your behavior wouldn’t be tolerated for more than a few minutes in real life, so I’ll venture a guess that you’re most likely a misfit whose lack of social skills has relegated you to trolling the internet in search of attention. Sad, but not my problem.

And on that note, I’ll say this to you, Craig: There are billions of us “believers” on this planet, and we will persist in our believing no matter how much or how often you bravely ridicule us from behind the anonymity of your keyboard, so deal with it. You’ve received the last bit of attention from me that you’re going to get—now piss off.